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Once a month, Dr. Sells or PLL's clinical director, Ellen Souder, will be answering parents' questions and concerns regarding their sons and daughters from letters that we receive. If you are interested in submitting your questions for the mailbag column, please e-mail Dr. Sells at spsells@difficult.net. Dr. Sells and Ellen will answer as many letters as possible.
When your child leaves a pile of … Mulch

When your child leaves a pile of ... Mulch

 

 

Dear Parenting with Love and Limits,

 

I have been reading your book "Parenting Your Out-Of-Control Teenager."  Recently my step-son and I signed a contract in which he agreed to mulch the front yard for $60.  I gave him a week to complete the task, which expires tomorrow night at midnight.  During the past week, he has spent only an hour spreading mulch.  Before I ordered the mulch, I asked him if was willing to spread it to make some money.  He agreed.  I made up a service agreement that includes the type of service, time of completion, payment, and general provisions that we both signed.  He is now complaining that he doesn't have enough time to complete the task.  By the way, he spends most of his awake time skateboarding.  Other than not paying him the money if he doesn't complete the task, should there be any other consequences since I now have six yards of mulch that I will have to spread myself.

 

Jan

 

 

Hello Jan (mom of the excess mulch),

 

I received your email that you sent to Dr. Scott Sells.  I am the Clinical Director for Parenting with Love and Limits (Dr. Sells' Organization) and I would like to respond to your question.

 

First of all, I must say, I appreciate your creativity and attention to details in your contract with your son to mulch the front yard.  It appears that you are teaching him a valuable lesson of "the real world" that you don't get something for free!  Including the type of service, time of completion, payment, and provisions is awesome.

 

So, you are definitely covered in not owing your son the payment if he does not meet the above criteria.  Unfortunately, it sounds as if your agreement with your son was presented as an "opportunity" and not as something that he was "obligated to do" with pre-written consequences if he failed to comply.  Remember, as chapter 2 (pp. 29-66) states, if it is not written down, your teen will "drive a Mack truck through it"!

 

The best thing you can do at this point, to continue the "life lessons" for your son would be to hire someone else to do the mulching and give them the $60!  Perhaps one of your son's friends would be looking to earn some spending money! 

 

I hope my words have been helpful ... you are definitely on the right track with recognizing that agreements need to be in writing. 

 

Warm regards,

Ellen

 

 

It's time to shape up or ship out

 

Hello! I just got the book, Parenting Your Out-or-Control Teenager, from the library. My daughter is nineteen, soon to be twenty. She graduated high school two years ago and is doing nothing. Three months ago she finally passed her written exam to be a hair stylist after 3 tries. In order to try to motivate her to study for the test, I told her that I would buy her a car. She does not have her driver's license, only a permit. It took her about 7 times to pass the written driver's test. I paid for one driving lesson for her and offered to pay for more but she claims that she knows how to drive. About two years ago, we bought her a small truck, but it was stick shift and she refused to have anything to do with it, so we finally sold it

 

My husband, her dad, does not believe we should give her a car. She sleeps all day and goes out with her friends to parties, etc. at night. She has no job now (she quit her last one 6 months ago because they won't give her a weekend off) She claims that if we buy her a car, she can move on with her life: get her license, get a job, and enroll in college.

 

We went to a counselor briefly, but she doesn't feel she needs it. We have a contract with her that states she is to be home at 11 during the week. She pretty much ignores it and claims that she can't because she has to depend on people to take her home. We have kicked her out at least three or four times now telling her to get a job and follow the rules or live elsewhere. Each time she returns, she says she will and then it goes back to the way things were.

 

We are at the end of our rope. She keeps saying that she is an adult. The counselor said that she was being a rebellious fourteen year old. Also, we cannot even go away for the weekend because while we are gone, she has friends over partying. Her boyfriend is 21 and not working either. He lost his license for drunk driving.

 

I want to get her a car on one hand because hopefully then she will get a job etc, but my husband says that she's going to kill herself or someone else and that she's not ready yet. Please help us!!!!

  

P.S. She doesn't want any old car either She wants a "newer" car with power windows and doors, cd player, 4 doors, automatic, etc. My husband and I are both driving 13 year old cars with roll-up windows and no cd players.

 

 

Hello Mom of Difficult Daughter,

 

I received your email concerning your daughter.  I am the Clinical Director of Parenting with Love and Limits and would like to respond to your concerns.

 

First, let me commend you and your husband for recognizing that your daughter is in need of help.  Forgive me for saying this, but your daughter sounds like an incredibly smart individual who knows a "cushy" setup when she sees one.

 

While I appreciate the past efforts you have put in toward attempting to break her of her self-centered lifestyle, I fear that each time you have given in, she has only gained strength, until now she is like the "alien" who has drunk so much of her parents energy that she has grown to mammoth proportions with incredible strength! 

 

In order to break this truly destructive cycle that she is on, you will have to take extreme measures.

 

For example, a written contract that clearly states your (I emphasize the word "YOUR") household rules that she must abide by in order to benefit from your roof over her head is needed ASAP. Additionally, you must be prepared to administer tough love in the form of helping pack her up to go stay for a few days at a homeless shelter while she ponders her choices.  A critical point is that in order for her to be allowed to return back to your home, she must have taken care of certain requirements (i.e. apply for several jobs with written verification, etc.)  You will want to insure that your daughter does NOT have any keys to your home! 

 

Some of your requirements for living "under your roof" that I would recommend you put in a contract would be -

        Getting a job within 2 months, and as long as she is out of work, she needs to be volunteering her services in the many different agencies in town.  I always like having youth volunteer at homeless shelters, animal shelters, Nursing Homes, etc.  You can call the Police Department for more ideas. 

        She needs to give up her house key and if she comes home after your requirement, she will have to stay at the local homeless shelter.  You must be prepared to call the police if she begins to be disruptive enough to wake the neighbors.  Your daughter will learn after only one episode that you mean business this time!

        She needs to also be "earning her keep" by doing chores around the house. 

 

One other thing, it is imperative, in order for you to "save her life", that you do not give in to her selfish demand of "needing a car so that she can be home on time"!!!!  Whew, she is a wily one!  Your husband is most definitely correct in his assessment of the car issue.

 

One other recommendation I might make would be that you and your husband ought to go away for the weekend.  You need to require that your daughter stay elsewhere and you take the only keys to the house with you!  It sounds as if you would benefit from a much needed break.

 

These recommendations may seem harsh, but remember, if you do nothing, you will soon have a 20-year-old, 21-year-old, 22-year-old ....who has no job.  How long are you willing to maintain this?

 

I hope these thoughts have been helpful.

 

Warm regards,

Ellen